Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

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#21 Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

Post by Commander » Sat, 14 Mar 20, 17:49 pm

I am not a medical professional, nor do I play one on TV (or the web, in today's world). I have no sage advice of a medical nature to hand out to the denizens who occasionally gather here. For that, I would steer you to the The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) or your individual doctor.

What I am concerned about are those people pushing the panic. Not just the crazy individuals buying up the toilet paper and hand sanitizer, but those on youtube and elsewhere pushing a daily narrative about "how the world is going to change". The world always is changing, so unless you think this is a second black plague and we are going to enter the second dark ages, exploiting the panic isn't going to make things better.

I watched a video from a homesteader youtuber. This gentleman is located in the Pacific Northwest and was concerned because of all the lock downs going on in the area that his daily routine was going to be changed? I'm not sure I follow, but most homesteaders I have known have started that life style to get "off the grid" and be self supportive. Other than how it may affect the kidlings schooling, there should be only a minor change in day to day affairs and one would think he would be in the cat birds seat. But he is online vlogging, pushing the panic in my opinion. Just sit back, wash your hands and grab a :~beer:. If symptoms appear, contact your health professional.

To all who visit and are members here, try to relax, take stock of your situation and be prudent in your actions, Stockpiling extra rolls will probably only mean that you will not have to buy any for a while. Not stockpiling extra rolls and being in the worst case position (quarantined for up to a month, shall we say) just means you'll have to use a rag to wash your toosh. So be safe, don't take any unnecessary risks, and chill.
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#22 Re: Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

Post by bernomatic » Sun, 29 Mar 20, 05:13 am

Do You Believe the Media's Narrative About the US having More Coronavirus Cases Than China? Don't.
Sorry, our mainstream media is wrong again. We have so many information sources available to us via the internet that you would think they would, at the very least, take the time to double check what they are saying to the American people.
True, I had to laboriously translate some information but, isn't that called research? Isn't that what journalism used to be about? It makes you wonder why our media is spouting a narrative straight out of Communist China's playbook, doesn't it.

Meanwhile, many people in the area have been trying to get the real story out. But, they don't have the ability to go into hundreds of thousands of US homes on a daily basis. And, apparently, our major media sources are so lazy they aren't even looking for factual data.

Here is what I found, you tell me who is telling the truth.

I first saw this tweet come through my timeline and it made me question what else I might find:
LO Kin-hei 羅健熙

@lokinhei

Report by @appledaily_hk , Japanese news outlet interviewed Wuhan doctors, and confirmed Wuhan has stopped testing, that is why new case = 0 there. They release people in quarantine early too.

華本土零感染 日媒揭造假
指習訪武漢後停測試 鄂瘋傳禁通報確診
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#23 Re: Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

Post by Commander » Wed, 01 Apr 20, 03:03 am

In the article on Breitbart.com, "Dr. Nicole Saphier: ‘Reason to Hope’ with Developing Coronavirus Treatments", I found a very interesting statement at the end of the article by Dr. Nicole Saphier, author of Make America Healthy Again: How Bad Behavior and Big Government Caused a Trillion-Dollar Crisis.

“They’re still big numbers,” said Saphier, “But … they’re a tenth of what they said a month ago when they were saying up to 1.2 million — and although that was likely a scare tactic — that number, we have to remember, it doesn’t factor in the social distancing measures that everyone’s taking right now. That’s just like, it’s a free-for-all, let’s all go to the beach and party and cough on each other, and that’s how you get to 1.2 million.”

Saphier continued, “Even the number of 100,000 to 200,000 deaths are not necessarily taking into effect the treatment medications that are coming out, the increased ventilators, the increased hospital beds, and the increased workforce, as well as the increased [personal protective equipment]. Again, it’s better at this point to continue to give worst-case-scenario numbers, because maybe that will push people to stay inside.”
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Nothing to help with risk assessment, just we're going to scare you like little kids to get you to do what we want. :x
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#24 Re: Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

Post by Commander » Sun, 05 Apr 20, 21:03 pm

Viva Frei, a Canadian lawyer and youtube vloger makes some very pertinent points about the numbers the Mainstream Media keep throwing at us. One of the questions he has is concerning the number of deaths normally (non Wuhan Virus deaths) that would occur over the time frame the numbers people put out.
interesting discussion.

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#25 Re: Pushing the Panic- CoVid 19

Post by luke strawwalker » Sun, 12 Apr 20, 22:26 pm

Well, when these ultra leftist liberals like Hillary Clinton et al. famously said, "never let a good crisis go to waste", the "useful idiots", particularly those ultra leftist communists in the media and universities/intelligentsia, rush to do their part... That's why Stalin called them " useful idiots"...

Don't think for ONE MOMENT that the libtards aren't using this mess to further their own aims... No way they're going to let this crisis go to waste. Like I read on a Facebook post, "why is it CHURCES are being forced to close, but ABORTION CLINICS remain open as "essential services"... They're already using this to push the agenda of "universal guaranteed income", where every American adult would get a $1,000 per month gubmint check... Do the math on that one, and read the history of the German Weimar Republic or, more recently, the unmitigated fiasco in Venezuela to see the results of unrestrained gubmint money printing to solve it's problems...

Read a headline the other day that since economic guru advising Trump is already sounding the alarm bell we're heading for a Second Great Depression by shutting the country down like this ad infinitum... Which is something I said to Betty within a couple days off the shutdowns starting... Punched the point home when the gubner of Florida started threatening to arrest spring break college kids for not social distancing and starting on the beach and bars; how many gazillion bucks did they lose in FLA, AL, and TX sure to spring breakers being chased of the beaches and out of the bars and stuff where they're normally blow a wad of Mom n Dad's money?? Now figure all the businesses shuttered by all this, sure restaurants are still serving takeout, but business is down by huge amounts, probly the only ones really making out like bandits are the toilet paper and mask businesses, maybe health care industry. Insurance is going to get hit with tons of bills they're not expecting to be sure. Fuel is $1.64 last time I gassed up, which isn't often since we're all cloistered at home, Keira and Betty aren't driving 18 miles each way to school every day (and by all accounts probly won't for the rest of the year) and we're not going 13 miles to Rosenberg several times a week to shop, eat out, or go to church. If there's one bright spot, they said fuel use is down enough it totally short circuited the Saudis attempt to jack up oil prices. We haven't seen fuel this cheap since 90 before the First Gulf War, IIRC... Course nobody can go anywhere or do anything LOL.

Eventually the gubmint is going to HAVE to put a smiley face on everything and tell everybody, "everything's fine, go back to work, and for pity's sake GO SHOPPING and SPEND SOME MONEY!!" No work means no jobs, no paychecks, which means NO withholding, no shopping means no spending which means NO SALES TAXES, which means federal, state, and local tax income just got knocked into a cocked hat... Sure the Fed can print trillions, but that's a very temporary stopgap measure... At least we won't have to worry about toilet paper when $20's and $50's and hundred dollars bills are worth less than a roll of TP...

Our economy is SO fragile nowadays that an off Christmas shopping season can send us into recession-- what do you think will happen when all the numbers come out on this one?? The markets are already heading for the toilet, all the numbers and indicators are going to be totally haywire, and that means the rest of the economy will follow... The longer this goes on, the worse it's gonna get... Eventually the gubmint is gonna be like, "if we don't get the economy moving again, the whole country is gonna go broke" and they'll decide having people dropping like flies is better than losing EVERYTHING to another Great Depression... It's simple math; if they're at work they're paying withholding tax, and shopping and paying sales tax, and if they die, at least we don't have to send them a stimulus check or unemployment check...

The gubmint was slow to react to this pandemic, and it'll be even slower responding to the economic realities, as they'll argue and hem haw while trying to decide what to do, but it's coming... The damage has already been done, just hardly nobody realizes it yet... But rest assured the reckoning is coming, just a matter of time.

For a long while folks have been predicting the coming financial apocalypse, due to the gubmint and Feds TOTALLY irresponsible fiscal policy for the last few decades... I'm not sure this is it, but it may well trigger it, and even if it doesn't, in a year this may make the 08 derivatives crisis look like a church picnic by comparison...

Later! OL J R
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